dont know about every one else but the only socks i iown are explorerers by holeproof in australia , they are a well made thick sock that last for years............ well they used to be !!! i purchased 4 pairs a couple of days ago and were really pissed when i tried them on, i can see skin though them . they are thin as a bugger and the bottoms which used to be really thick are now the same thickness as the tops !!!! wtf . after reading the packs small print ....... made in china . i emailed them to say how sheethouse they now are and i got a message back saying how they are made under strict supervision bla bla and sorry but thats how they are now bla bla dont give a ####. time to vote with the feet and #### them off i think