Bino power?

[huntsmart]

The old bino question gets thrown up every now and then.

 

I've got two semi busted binos 8x and 10x both 42's so was going to grab a new pair.

My 8x are the best low light but the 10x can just see a bit more detail and are probably better suit to most of my glassing.

 

So I was going to get 10 x 42 but last minute thought why not 10 x 50 to gain a little bit low light capability. That first and last 10 mins is when I see 90% of the deer

 

Most of my hunts seem to be stalk into a spot and sit and wait , the little bit of extra weight I probably won't notice just sitting there.

 

Any reason why not to go 10 x 50 ?

 

Rgds

hs

 

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[Lightweight]

I think the main thing is that 10x50s start to get bulky, wheras 10x42's are very efficient when taking FOV vs magnification, and exit pupil into account. I'm in 8x42 land, but hoping to move to 10x42s in the next month or so....

[SWIZ/TOMMY]

10x50 might be heavy and not fit in some bino harness's.

 

would a better quality 10x42 do the same ie swaro, lieca, zeiss, steiner maybe? not sure on budget but could be a option better quality over bigger size?

[HDTV]

would love a pair of 12 or 15s for big country wher the 10s dont cut mustard.......   
most people are saving the outlay of money on Binoculars, for thermal monoculars,...............   Binoculars are for bird watching.

thermals are for Sambar stags hunting

"Any reason why not to go 10 x 50 ?"      Yeah,  big end,  light gain mean #### all if cant see thru scope,  wait in ute extra 10 mins, then stalk,    or be sure the rifle carries x50 aswell to utilize what your eyes are seeing in the bino before switchin for a rifle..

x42   if higher end would bring in as much light...     8 x for stalkers, 10x for all rounders and 12-15 for big country bosses.

Edited July 2, 2020 by Dingo.375

[matt75]

The weight of the larger size in hands glassing will be another consideration as much as the size in harness

[264]

Go with quality glass up to 10x42's.  if you go to the 10x50's you will find they are very hard to hold still. And really require a stand, to get the best performance out of them. 

Ive gone with the other option of Leicas in 10x42 with rangefinder option and the use of a spotting scope. For long range trophy identification. Saves a lot of leg work in NZ.

Went with the lighter option Vortex razor 18-48x65 , so still light enough to be portable with a tripod. 

Even the 10x42's are hard to hold steady after a climb or rushed usage.

On the range finding side of things , after using seperate range finders of smaller magnification. the time lost refinding and ranging the target is inconvenient and I've lost shot opportunities with the time taken to locate animals. The option of instant range at the push of a button whilst viewing thru bino's is worth the extra coin.

Edited July 3, 2020 by 264

[balltearer]

29 minutes ago, 264 said:

The option of instant range at the push of a button whilst viewing thru bins is worth the extra coin.

Amen!

 

 

[Waldo]

I'm always the odd one out in bino discussions, I run 6x32's and I grab them everytime I head out because they are so nice to carry. Yes, if I hunted big open country I might wish for more?

Also, try and find a bad review on a pair of 6x32's because generally they get good reviews.

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[Burners]

4 hours ago, 264 said:

Go with quality glass up to 10x42's.  if you go to the 10x50's you will find they are very hard to hold still. And really require a stand, to get the best performance out of them. 

Ive gone with the other option of Leicas in 10x42 with rangefinder option and the use of a spotting scope. For long range trophy identification. Saves a lot of leg work in NZ.

Went with the lighter option Vortex razor 18-48x65 , so still light enough to be portable with a tripod. 

Even the 10x42's are hard to hold steady after a climb or rushed usage.

On the range finding side of things , after using seperate range finders of smaller magnification. the time lost refinding and ranging the target is inconvenient and I've lost shot opportunities with the time taken to locate animals. The option of instant range at the push of a button whilst viewing thru bino's is worth the extra coin.

How often do you use binos up here Mick? I was thinking about going 8 x 32 (recent SSAA mag article driven) 

[264]

14 minutes ago, Burners said:

How often do you use binos up here Mick? I was thinking about going 8 x 32 (recent SSAA mag article driven) 

Had the conversation a couple of weeks back. Told the guys that we're hunting with me that they are not necessary here. Agreed that they were carrying extra weight for nothing by about 14:00.

Used to carry them when I was guiding.

[Burners]

2 minutes ago, 264 said:

Had the conversation a couple of weeks back. Told the guys that we're hunting with me that they are not necessary here. Agreed that they were carrying extra weight for nothing by about 14:00.

Used to carry them when I was guiding.

Confirmed my suspicions, I have a pair of 10x42's that I never carry, thanks

[matt75]

16 hours ago, 264 said:

Go with quality glass up to 10x42's.  if you go to the 10x50's you will find they are very hard to hold still. And really require a stand, to get the best performance out of them. 

Ive gone with the other option of Leicas in 10x42 with rangefinder option and the use of a spotting scope. For long range trophy identification. Saves a lot of leg work in NZ.

Went with the lighter option Vortex razor 18-48x65 , so still light enough to be portable with a tripod. 

Even the 10x42's are hard to hold steady after a climb or rushed usage.

On the range finding side of things , after using seperate range finders of smaller magnification. the time lost refinding and ranging the target is inconvenient and I've lost shot opportunities with the time taken to locate animals. The option of instant range at the push of a button whilst viewing thru bino's is worth the extra coin.

Interesting comment with the range finding binos as been considering a set when upgrade 8x42 that had for 10years.

I know it takes away while others have run separate units items and by time they have the distance I would have taken the shot

[balltearer]

Years ago I ran three 2 x 7 -  33 Leupold scopes on my deer rifles  and  was finding that they were just not quite enough. So I  went to 3.5 x 10 -44 scopes  and the difference was amazing as my vision  had deteriorated  as expected  with the years.

I run 10 x 44 binos daily and they are great  but there are days now that I wished I had my 15 X binos on my neck  for that little bit extra even at 150 yards in pox light.

Like is that an antler tip? Is that an ear fringe? Some days I study things in the binos and feel a goose because I have been looking at a stump in the gloom!

 

[HDTV]

Spot on BT , 

[huntsmart]

Great to see all the different responses and see a bit of discussion .

As we know specific binos suit specific occasions, hard to find a pair that covers most.

I did try a few out that were around, Waldo, a pair of 6 x 32, and they were great , I was surprised how clear they were but wonder their low light performance and I'm chasing a bit more mag. Also a couple of pairs of 10 x 42's quite some difference in weight between them.

Those rangefinding ones are nice, a bit $$$ for me . I just picked up a rangefinder mainly for the bow, but it has been handy to check some distances I've been guessing .Other than that the 06 is sighted at about 200m so I just point and shoot, if I have time to think I may hold over or under.

In the end I pick up a pair of Athlon midas G2 UHD 10 x50.

Mid range price , glass maybe similar or a bit better than vortex vipers.


I'll send the damaged 8 x 42 Bushnell legend ultra hd's back to test out there bulletproof warranty, if they fix them they'll make a good back up or ones to carry. I normally have a spare pair in my pack.

Cheers
hs

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