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if anyone is remotely interested i found these. they are thicker than 5mm being 7.112mm with the inserts, they also look to be less restrictive than might have been thought.

http://rosewindminin...products_id/329

Thats a good looking set of gators.

Some thought gone into making them.

Can we take the gator thing a bit further.

I went out of my way to get gators that have a rubber strap and S/S cable, for adjustment and wear factor.

Mine will stand up on their own very stiff canvas, i have taken the point of a knife and stabbed at them something like a snake bite.

It just slid off, they are a fine knit canvas gator. These came from Aussie disposals.

I have found the tougher they are the hotter they are to wear.

Whats your thoughts on the straps, rubber and S/S cable, around 2mm dia.

Having tried many types, i found i ended up looking at how they attach and how comfy they were to wear and the heat factor.

The cable makes them easy to keep clean. The rubber straps allow for a good fit.

Any others done any sort of field trials?

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